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A Collection of Cheap Phone Services

Intertional Calling


Everybody knows using computers to talk with MSN, QQ etc. We’ll nottalk about those methods here. Instead we talk about calls with regularphones on one side or both sides.

1. Of course, traditional way calling internationally is using calling card.
I went to Chinatown to buy calling cards when I first came here. I bought it online. We can get calling card with rates about or less than 1 cent per minute calling China.

2. Make international calls with local calling rates (or free): Talkster.com
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http://www.talkster.com/


No registration, no credit cards, no catches, no limits!

With talkster, you get a local access for yourself, and an access number for your friend.
Say you want to call your friend, you call your access number which rings your friend’s phone. He/She answers the phone, then hangs up. You stays online. Your friend calls his/her access number. Then you  two will be connected, basically having a conference call.

The good thing about this method is that your friends, families in China call also you by calling their access numbers first. You answer the phone, hang up, ask them to stay online, and then calls your access number.

3. Skype Unlimited World $9.95/month

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http://www.skype.com/allfeatures/subscr … nadaworld/

In particular, unlimited calls areas include:
China landlines and mobiles
USA landlines and mobiles

Make Unlimited Skype™ Calls without a Computer with Belkin’s New Desktop Internet Phone for Skype: $99

Of course you don’t need pay anything if both sides use skype.
Get a skypein phone number, you basically have a lanline phone. It costs €50 one year.

4. There’s another way which is a little bit complicated. But it’s free calling between two sides. You need pay to get sip devices like this: Linksys PAP2T-NA for both sides and connect regular phones to the devices.

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Then get sip accounts for both sides, like voipuser.com, voxilla.com or freedigits.com etc. Set it on the Sip device.
Reference:

http://blog.nyworldphone.com/2008/02/06 … cked-pap2/

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In particular, Freedigits’ account is a US phone number. Basically, you and your friend in China get a free US phone number. Calling between you is free! Of course, other people in US can call you.
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If you want to get local numbers, go to grandcentral.com, get numbers and forward it to your freedigits number(or GizmoProject sip account).
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If you want to call other numbers in US or China, register accounts and buy credit from your favorite VOIP companies like voipdiscount.com etc, and register it on the sip device.
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Basically, you get a home phone with a free US phone number, free calls between you and other people with the same setup and low rate calling to other people.

5. Another convenient way to call China is use Packet8 Mobile Talk with cell phones for 1 cent per minute to China.
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6. I guess a lot of poople know iTalkBB. They offer unlimited calls to north America and China with a monthly fee $25.

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7. The complicated way is to set up a free PBX asterisk which will provide the most features that you want. You can get a WRT54GS, load OpenWRT firmware and install asterisk. Then you can set up free US phone numbers (or even China number which you usually need pay) to receive calls. And you can set up calling services to call China and US.

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Domestic Calling


Usually, people get phone service from Verizon. They offer individual service and packages like including internet, TV and phone services. Time Warner Cable also offers similar services.

1. Skype Unlimited US & Canada $2.95/month

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Usually, you need a computer to make skype calls. Get a phone above, you’ll make calls like regular.
Make Unlimited Skype™ Calls without a Computer with Belkin’s New Desktop Internet Phone for Skype: $99

2. People who have tmobile service, even the lowest package, want to have a cheap home phone, Tmobile-at-Home is good choice.
$10 a month for unlimited calls in north America:

http://www.t-mobileathome.com/

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3. Same as international calling #4 which may be the cheapest way. You can get Linksys PAP2-NA for about $30 on ebay.
4. Same as international calling #7.

Mobivox: Another VOIP service to substitute betamax

Betamax had pretty good rates for international calling. But due to a lot of problems (check more details at http://blog.nyworldphone.com/2008/02/06/betamax-voip-services/), people may want to to find another one to substitute.

I checked around and found that mobivox(www.mobivox.com) has a free minutes policy which is similar to gizmo project. But not like gizmo, people can make calls from regular phones.

Here is their description about the free calling policy.

3.1 What is the offer: “Free calls between MOBIVOX users”?

MOBIVOX offers free local and international calls from any phone to any other MOBIVOX member in over 40 destinations worldwide. If you are calling outside of these areas or calling friends and+ family who are not MOBIVOX members, …

3.2 What destinations are included in free calling?

Free calls between MOBIVOX members are available FROM anywhere (any country and from any phone) to:

A) Members’ mobile phones in::
Canada, China, Guam, Hong Kong, Puerto Rico, Singapore, Thailand and United-States (including Alaska and Hawaii).

B) Members’ landline phones in:
Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Chile, China, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, France, Germany, Greece, Guam, Hong Kong, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Mexico (Mexico City, Monterrey, Guadalajara), Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Puerto Rico, Russia (Moscow and St. Petersburg), Singapore, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, Thailand, United-States (including Alaska and Hawaii), Turkey (Ankara and Istanbul), United Kingdom and Venezuela-Caracas.
C) All Skype™ users on Skype™

3.4 What does it mean if my account is inactive?

If you have not made any type of call in the previous six months, your account will become inactive. This means that you cannot make or receive free calls on MOBIVOX. Any credits that are in your account at the time it is made inactive will be lost.

  3.6 What’s the “fair-use” policy?
The fair use policy allows us to offer free calling to our users. The continuation of the free calling depends on the cooperation of the MOBIVOX community.

For calls placed through a local access number, users are entitled to receive 250 minutes of free calls per week (Monday-Sunday UTC (GMT).

For Web and SMS Call Backs, users who have added a minimum of $5 of credit to their account, will receive 250 free minutes of Web and SMS Call Back per week. For users who have never added credit to their account, Web and SMS Call Backs will be limited to a lifetime total of 250 free minutes per phone number. Once 250 minutes of free calling using either SMS Call Back or Web Call Back is reached, users will be charged at the standard rate to complete this call. To ensure you receive 250 free minutes per week of Web and SMS Call Backs, please make a minimum deposit of $5 to your account.

3.7 How do I know that a call will be free?

No Surprises! We will tell you if a call is free before connecting your call.

Make sure:

  • You have made at least one MOBIVOX call
  • Your friend or family member’s phone number is registered in their profile
    • Your friend has made at least one MOBIVOX call
    • You are calling one of our free destinations. See here.
    • You did not cross the free call limit of 250 minutes. You can always consult your Call History.

Check more details here: http://www.mobivox.com/help/FAQ?go=3#q3-7.

They have different ways to initiate calls. If you want to learn more about different calling methods for voip, here is a simple explanation/guide: http://blog.nyworldphone.com/2008/03/06/various-voip-solutions/.

I’ll try it and post my experience later. First thing I’m concerned is the voice quality. Another thing about the “free” thing is the tricky policy about “active users” which is like gizmo project. We’ll see how it works.

Betamax VOIP Services

List of services

  • http://www.internetcalls.com
  • http://www.netappel.com
  • http://www.poivy.com
  • http://www.sparvoip.de
  • http://www.voipbuster.com
  • http://www.voipcheap.com
  • http://www.voipcheap.co.uk (careful, different “free” list from voipcheap.com, and rates listed in Sterling Pence instead of Euro Cents!)
  • http://www.voipdiscount.com
  • http://www.voipstunt.com
  • http://www.webcalldirect.com
  • http://www.sipdiscount.com
  • http://www.voipbusterpro.com
  • http://www.voipwise.com
  • http://www.nonoh.net
  • http://www.voipraider.com
  • http://www.justvoip.com
  • http://www.12voip.com
  • http://www.freecall.com
  • 27 Comments

    1. Another way revenue is generated is by charging a EUR 0.05 connection fee for every free call. I live in France. After the free trial I bought EUR 10 of prepaid fees. The connection fee is shown each time you dial a free call. After 3, my balance is now 9.85. The problem is this – nowhere until this point is there any mention of a connection fee, in fact all the advertising states the complete opposite. So it is a case of blatantly dishonest advertising and consumer fraud. Les HComment by Les Henderson — February 7, 2007 @ 11:18 am
    2. There’s a connection if you make a call back. For direct dialing, there should be no connection fee.Anyway, I have to say the customer care of this company really sucks. Last time, my accounts were suspended for a long time. They told me that some body used my credit card or something to add credit. That’s the only thing they told me after a bunch of my emails. Now, my accounts are suspened again. And they never ever respond to me. I don’t even know what happened.Comment by alen — February 7, 2007 @ 9:43 pm
    3. Thanks for that info, you’re right. Good luck with your own issues, I know the problem from other experiences.Comment by Les H — February 9, 2007 @ 10:37 am
    4. For the longest time I am using tringotel VoIP service because they are so much cheaper than any other service, and the shipping charges are absolutely free and I guess tringotel have merged with Sunrocket.Comment by Aparna Rane — March 17, 2007 @ 5:07 am
    5. I am using Betamax voip services for quite a long time. But recently they have stared fraudulent tricks with their customers. My accounts with http://www.voipcheap.com, http://www.sparvoip.com and http://www.justvoip.com have been blocked without any reason. I have enough credit balance in all these accounts. But still they have stopped outgoing calls from these acoounts. This same thing happened with some other people I know.But surprising a couple of my friends informed me that their accounts are operating well. I don’t know why the betamax people are doing this type for selective fraud !!!!Does anyone know how to get my money back from these people ??

      Comment by Somdev Kar — April 3, 2007 @ 11:58 am

    6. I have many golden reseller accounts. All of them as well as my user accounts were blocked for no reason. I emailed them tens of times, no response. What a company! That’s why I have decided to quit Betamax! No Betamax!Comment by Alen — April 3, 2007 @ 6:01 pm
    7. i was used long time voipcheap & after that without any reason they blocked my account.then again i was operated it with some other user name three times as it was blocked all the time.after long gap i started to use justvoip & after one day again they blocked my account.what a cheap people?why they are doing /playing in net once they received money from such people.it is a very dangerous site & i request all dont use such type of bloddy site.Comment by T.MURUGESAN — April 11, 2007 @ 3:12 pm
    8. I am using VOIP Betamax since long ago and I AM VERY SETISFY with the services it provides us. But most of the time i am being charged without my attempt. Is there any way to find out why i am being charged though I am not purchasing any credit? Below are the details of purchasing Betamax Credit using my VISA Card. Is it automatically charged by BETAMAX or somebody else is misusing my credit? I think its a very seriou matter to me and if somebody else is misusing my credit, better please blacklist my VISA Card for any type of BETAMAX services in future.1. 04/04/2007 04/06/2007 Purchase – BETAMAX VOIP CREDIT COLOGNE DE 74741997095043004372043 ($14.11)2.04/11/2007 Purchase – BETAMAX VOIP CREDIT COLOGNE DE 710108624973 ($29.11)

      Any words regarding my issues will be very appreciated.

      Regards,

      Comment by Dambar Bahadur Magar — April 15, 2007 @ 3:01 pm

    9. These people are dangerous criminal,i was using internetcalls but i stopped because they took my money,never credited my account and everytime were trying to find my account number.
      There are a lot of bastards among their customers care.
      Stop everykind of bussiness with these suckers or you will pay a high price.
      Al.Comment by Al — April 21, 2007 @ 7:09 pm
    10. Betamax is a fraud ! They offer no possibility to change or remove your credit card details or to cancel your account. Don’t give Betamax your credit card details, this company is a fraud !Comment by Peter — June 24, 2007 @ 11:34 am
    11. I want to open justvoip account for net to phone. how to pay the 10 euro for getting balance in my justvoip username account.Comment by huzaifa — August 19, 2007 @ 3:47 pm
    12. we’re using voipbuster since 1.5 ur (from NL). Paying no problem at all, first through bank account now via Ideal & bank. Freedays now appear within a few minits on the screen. Costs 11.70 euro per 120 days…..
      We use an ATA and a normal phone: the qualtity is very good, even to Canada. It is much better then using the PC (echo).
      I do not recogize the problems here, I hope VB and others do something about it, as they seem to pay for it.
      Ok, it is cheap, so the service may bel ess than other companies, but still…..Comment by andre@home — August 26, 2007 @ 5:16 pm
    13. […] a pricing scheme that would be a full-time job to stay on ahead of. (NYworldphone.com describes it here). Others allege out-and-out credit card fraud. The company has had a history of credit card fraud […]Pingback by CommBytes 9/6/07 – Voxilla VoIP Forum — September 6, 2007 @ 6:06 am
    14. I’ve been using VoipStunt, InternetCalls and now DialNow.com for a few years now. Have never had any billing, spam or credit card problems with them. I have I’ve set up 3 WRTP54G, 2 RTP300 and 3 PAP2 ATAs on one voipstunt account so my whole family shares my 300 free minutes/ week. (ATAs can share the same account and make simultaneous calls, but soft client can’t) DialNow.com is used to call my nephews cell phones in South Africa. Rceently my cousin w/friends were in Belize which has exorbitant dial out rates I set up my trixbox to recognize their cell#, automatically call back and open a dialtone… their calls cost about $.13/min. (My only complaint… I would have liked free incoming Netherlands number so family there could call us for free.)Comment by Dave Tap — September 29, 2007 @ 1:10 am
    15. There is more to this company than you know. Today I called my bank because of a debit to my acct. I was unfamiliar with. Seems this company somehow got their hands on my credit card number and charged me for service I DON’T HAVE?? I use cell phones and don’t find that even a regular home phone is a necessity, yet oddly without even the software on my pc to use such a service I was charged for it anyway. Thankfully my bank intends to press charges for fraud. Kudos to you Betamax !! I assume you will be hearing from the states atty. gen. office very soon.Comment by Fran A. — November 6, 2007 @ 12:42 am
    16. Hello, We are resellers of all Betamax services mentioned above (like lowratevoip.com, justvoip.com, voipstunt.com, nonoh.net, http://www.voipdiscount.com, http://www.internetcalls.com , etc). We take payments via Moneybookers (from all over the world), cash and bank deposit (available in Pakistan only). We are known for our topnotch service and fast turnaround. Please visit us at http://www.GetVoipCredit.com for all details.Comment by Hassaan — December 3, 2007 @ 11:06 am
    17. I would like to add, that we sell voip credit vouchers and also provide facility of instant credit trasnfer to user’s voip account. Please visit us at http://www.GetvoipCredit.com for details. You can make payments safely via Moneybookers, a service like Paypal, but much secure.Comment by Hassaan — December 3, 2007 @ 11:07 am
    18. I had a serious problems too with Betamax company. They blocked all my accounts without any reason, the same like many many people. I live in germany, I will try to inform the media about this company (Betamax is german comp.), so that they can raise this issue. I believe that the company gain money not from the calls but from cheating people.Comment by Ali — December 15, 2007 @ 4:16 am
    19. Maybe we can make a website or use some website so we can let all victims post their experiences with betamax.Comment by alen — December 15, 2007 @ 4:23 pm
    20. Betamax block 5 my accounts with significant balance, tech support is not responding at all. I can log in to the account but I can’t do anything. What a poor company. Is there way make this company to pay for things they doing?Comment by Andrey — December 19, 2007 @ 3:11 pm
    21. Which method you use for paying? use paypal. with paypal you can refund your money back if the service stops or you are not getting what you are promised of. But becareful!, BETAMAX will add your paypal account to their “black list” so that you will NOT be able tp pay with this account anymore!Your problem s the problem of thousands in the world.Comment by Ali — December 19, 2007 @ 8:59 pm
    22. the same thing with me guys, the suckers blocked 2 of my accounts. without any reason.we must inform the whole world about this cheaters.burn in hell,motherf@ckers!!!Comment by Crematory — December 21, 2007 @ 12:46 am
    23. the same thing with me guys, the suckers blocked 4 of my accounts. without any reason.we must inform the whole world about this cheaters.burn in hell,motherf@ckers!!!Comment by Kashif — December 24, 2007 @ 10:15 pm
    24. Hi All Brother Specially from Germany,first of all, i ve same experience, my 2 accounts were blocked, so we have to solve this issue, my email address is sardar_faisal@yahoo.com, please for those who are living in Germany drops your contact detail in my email address then we will contact you because we need more people to against this fraud me & my others friends are living in Duisburg, Germany. so dont worry about your details we are going to Verbraucher Zentrale for put a case agains Betamax so please help us brothers.
      if you want to ask something then please write ..
      FaisalComment by Faisal — January 9, 2008 @ 10:32 am
    25. Please Do you all something this is not a solution to put your message every week about your problems with Betamax. my point of view is that when you are on right side then fight Contact your Verbracher Zentrale (in Your city)with all copies of INVOICE your BALANCE DETAIL n convey them your complaints. whatever which Language you speak English or German but main thing is that VZ or Lawer must know.
      FaisalComment by Faisal — January 9, 2008 @ 10:56 am
    26. JustVoip is FRAUD,cheaters,crooks….madarchod log sale…
      Cheated me..DONT USE IT>Comment by sam — January 18, 2008 @ 5:17 pm
    27. I live in the US and don’t use VOIP but my Visa just got charged 25.5 EUR and a foreign transaction fee by Betamax. Don’t know how they got my credit card number or if someone else used it to buy VOIP credit. I have not even used the visa outside the US! It is a big problem closing a card due to fraud.Comment by Phil — January 25, 2008 @ 9:01 pm